The Sigma 65mm F2 DG DN is for the photographer who wants a focal length that falls squarely between 50mm and 85mm. Did you notice that your spamming buddy Willow W got banned? Her main complain was the Sony menu and R5 AF was better. Apologies, but it really is apples and oranges.. when you comparing Sony to Canikon commenters. It's a different user. What is your succinct definition of Spray and Pray, and what about the A9ii made you comment about spray and pray? What in the review is wrong or biased? They were the only ones who didn't cover the Sony 24/1.4GM launch. The usual suspect of trolls are turning articles into absolute trash. It … I'll fork over more money any day of the week. We saw the exact same thing happen in the world of HiFi audio. , I'm aware that the 70-300mm has a maximum 15fps but even the 100-400 tops out at 20 ,compared to the 24fps of the RX10IV.I just uploaded the 25.600 iso image in full ,untouched but DPReview is not showing it in full quality , it's really virtually noise free but I don't know what is the limitation on this site for quality uploads, too many blackouts when doing high fps with OVF, @Paul: Check out https://rogerhunt.photography/smaller-birds. Just look at the price of the A7RIV. I’m done with you. The playstation generations will love it and toss their toys outa their prams at any sign of criticisim.Interestingly out and about I see no difference between photographers using different brands of cameras APART from Sony users who appear to be oikes? Well, maybe you are doing something fundamentally wrong if your failure rate with both cameras is >80%? The company the others would love to beat. You and other(s) here are Sony brand haters. Any guesses as to which username this troll was posting under before? Imagine an A7r3 or A7riv that can shoot 20 FPS and 4K video at 10 bit 4:2:2 from its full sensor readout. Some brand arguing will go on in any forum...but everyone knows that the Sony fans have taken it to a whole new level. Agan you’ve missed the point of my comment, which I suspect you’ve done deliberately as you don’t like someone criticising a product you like and/or a technique you use and consider ‘skillful’. - Ken Rockwell, read the full review … Disclaimer, I have never used a Sony mirrorless camera so this is not a fanbxx response. And Canon brought the 8K time limit response on themselves by overhyping that camera as as God's gift to videographers... MikeRanI think for the vast majority of users the battery life of mirrorless is not an issue but it's something that DSLR Fanboiz can jump on and argue about. He is using "dated" gear 7D MkII and 5D MkIV and his shots are very impressive. Is that too much to ask? Done that. And not very adult. The 600mm and 800mm f/11 lenses are entry level products. GLADLY. If it sells OK, considering the size of the target group, generally it's worth the money, though it may not be worth it for you and me. Canon did an amazing job with the R5 when you compare it with the previous versions they had. That’s another solution. @Blindasabat. And my comments on the R5 article are consistent with that. What's the best camera for travel? So much for your "color theory"! We would gladly pay. This all-content, junk-free website's biggest source of support is when you use those or any of these links to approved sources when you get anything, regardless of th… cbphoto123All those reasons, which are perfectly valid BTW, are why you felt the DSLRs were superior which in turn made it your opinion. At the moment there is none. Your instagram shots show even at that small size strong noise reduction effects and grislyness. @ Magnar - Not sure I follow your reasoning that being a massive multi-national consumer device manufacturer makes you better at producing cameras? It will take 5-10 years before mirrorless takes over in the professional sports field.As far as you having a balanced conversation, you are not doing a good job of it because all you are doing is repeating the same discredited arguments from 5+ years ago. I didn't even mention the R5. It can also record oversampled UHD 4K video. Well I shoot Canon but this is obviously a great camera! Hi Mike,I try to refrain from naming people when I comment and although I don't always agree with your posts, yours are in no way the worst and often informative. Just to name a few. One of the most significant of updates is a new mechanical shutter mechanism that allows for 10 fps bursts: this is significant because if you find yourself in a situation where you can't use the electronic shutter for risk of banding or other artifacts, the older model could only muster 5 fps which is a bit uninspiring on a camera meant to specialize in sports and action. I think counting the number of comments by any individual is a double edged sword and you certainly need to be careful when calling out other posters without looking at your own history. I think the moderation here is an impossible job. You'll quickly see how the SLR are now less and less. FWIW. What else was brought up as a negative about the camera? Yongnuo, makers of lenses, cameras and other photo accessories, has filed a patent for a modular mirrorless camera system. Planning to treat yourself to a new full-frame camera this holiday season? And if noise means a lot to you, simply add a tad noise reduction at post processing. Criticising is fine, not understanding something is fine. cbphoto123 I’m a fashion photographer. Roger Cicala is one person that has one opinion. "You will see the most vitriolic comments from Sony promoters all over the place." It might get you good pictures under very specific conditions while it will produce poor outcomes most of the times. The best that Canon can hope for is to stop to or slow the FF bleed, but even that's doubtful when cameras like the R6 are much dearer than the Sony alternative. No the 100-500 won't do it at 500mm and f/7.1. The Sony A9 II builds-upon what was arguably the most innovative professional sports camera to date: it takes the 24 Megapixel stacked full-frame sensor of the original A9 with its silent 20fps electronic … Many are very noisegrainy and that to be visible at instagram size level says a lot. When is Sony ever going to fix this problem? Tbcass the mirrorless body design is completely different than the SLT design. cbphoto123Fair enough but whether the Canikon DSLRs have been superior to Sony mirrorless is a matter of opinion so IMO you should substitute "better for my purposes" for "superior". And, of course, it comes with Sony's industry-leading autofocus implementation. A7SIII is outselling the R5 and even the 3 year old A7III is outselling the R6.... That may change in time but I was surprised to see that.I own the A9 and I realize its a niche camera. Covid has changed the whole World more then some may think. They want no rolling shutter(in the case of mirrorless), tank like durability/reliability and excellent AF tracking. I’m not gonna buy the overpriced canon lenses. Fact, both of you...are Sony shooters. We simply don't judge image content this way. EthanP99 said "Recorded a video last night", MikeRan replies "We are talking about shooting still sports images. You are not alone on the other side. The best action camera in the world is now mirrorless. There's no 'misperception' (sic). How's the toy autofocus, toy rolling shutter, toy DR and toy 8K working out for you? It has industry leading IBIS and excellent autofocus. @rubberdials. And I think they need to improve the writing speed to SD cards via new card technology for starters. Sony A9 II Comparison Review. The Sony a9 II didn't make a huge splash in the industry when it launched, but it's certainly left an impression on us. Recently is One Big Difference between A9II and for example Nikon D850 or other leading DSLR also Canon. You pay for what you get, and that is the best wildlife combo out there. Falling market share of canon could also be due to bad colors. Again, you’re basically picking at parts of my comment........a typical defence behaviour of someone who doesn’t want to understand the point of my original comment.......... For instance you could interpret my original comment that this is a very clever camera with amazing autofocus and FPS rate combined with a very accurate exposure system and efficient ISO 24mp sensor. It is going nowhere. FOUR THINGS NEEDED:36-42 pixelsspeed up the viewfinder a bitbetter rear display (touch and res. Yes this person made a new comment in the A7siii article and brought R5 into a Sony article. What's really funny though is you paid $500 for a TC and $2000 for a lens that give you 840mm at F9 on a 24MP sensor.For about 1/3rd the price you could get an 800mm F11 (only 2/3 stop difference) prime that weighs over a pound less, and is smaller and easier to carry!And a 45MP image at F11 can be sharped and reduced to 36MP for vastly better IQ and more detail than you could ever get with the A99ii low resolution sensor. The usual “Clowns” are out! "Ratings never are, they are just personal opinions. I care about image quality, ergonomics, and workflow speed. @Halftrack check the forums, yiu are bound to find some pitfights, but what you are looking for is there. Checkout zackiedawg, he has some posts on camera settings for BIF that may help you to finally make use of the potential of your gear. Sony make specialised cameras whilst Canon is going for a good overall camera. Mediocre for mediocre at least you get the full range from wide to supertele. Its the constant bickering that frustrates me when reading the comments and I also find myself caught up in it at times (my previous comment being is an obvious example).I will reiterate, its not the volume of comments that people make that annoys me but the broken record, repetitive nature of them which then draws us into replying in kind, which I'm guilty of as well.Anyway cheers and enjoy your photography. There seem to be lots of comments on here (for some reason) about how the R5 is cheaper and so much better for wildlife photography. Check KR’s website for “meaningful reviews” then. Many are an extreme contrast to "Paul"s claims of "noisefree shots at ISO 25.6k". i.e. Next when she switches to Sony from Canon, she will be paid shill and Canon would do just fine without her. Today, at its Snapdragon Tech Summit, Qualcomm revealed the details of its new Snapdragon 888 system on a chip (SoC) that, amongst performance and battery improvements, offers an array of impressive photographer features, should Android smartphone manufacturers choose to make the most of them. Good for: Sports, action and event photography specialists, run-and-gun video shooters that need solid out-of-camera footage and generalist photographers that want the best autofocus performance they can find. The a9 II has, hands down, the best autofocus performance money can buy. I agree. I don’t envy them. No body is sensitive here we read nonesense everyday. If people are arguing that battery life does not matter..they are wrong, much like Sony fans were back then..actually until much more recently, 2 years ago...when they updated their batteries to finally actually be competitive with dslr's. Hahahaha...now you know how many of us have felt trying to wade through the comments on the R5 or the 1DXIII or any Canon camera, or for that matter, Nikon...go look at the D6 thread, the D780 thread, or even Fuji...or basically anything not Sony. Wow. "I wonder if this is the result of bad colors?". But even my gone 5N with kit lens as well as my old A6000 were also able to produce great JPG portraits. But many of my comments are to rebut the (mostly) 2 guys doing the constant bashing. The D850 is a superb camera, probably the best overall DSLR ever made, but no way can it compete with the AF tracking and burst capabilities of an a9ii or an R5/6. This approach based on perception is something that I think is not in Sony's DNA. Guess it wasn't so good after all. A great camera. DPR has already detailed out pros and cons in their usual well laid out process. I happened to get 25.600iso pics with the A9ll and 70-300mm noise free ,but they have nothing to do with my instagram why did you connect them?Why didn't you ask me my criteria for posting on instagram before inventing nonsense? When I shot seagulls with my lowly A6600 and 1655 I had 100% success. These comments streams are one of the oldest bits of the internet, others have faced the same problems and defeated them. NEW FroPack 1 Lightroom Presets https://froknowsphoto.com/presets/ (40% off) This is a PREVIEW of the Sony a9 II. MikeRan, may I ask why you posted so many negative comments under the R5 review.Is that not the very issue you are complaining about here. Good travel cameras should be small, versatile, and offer good image quality. Anyway your point is taken. Not good for consumers. I don’t count bits. Don’t forget the R5 review, they posted over 190 on there. Trolls are a necessary evil for these capitalistic "free" websites. Is there a reason? Trying to actively spread misinformation, not so much. Me, I bought the first version A9 a couple of months ago, since I don't need the extra goodies of the update, and took advantage of the now reduced price of the earlier version. Just buy a superzoom 1" camera. Then the iPod came along, and then the smartphone, and convenience won out over absolute sound quality. This is a specialized camera. Personally dont give a rats @rse what she does but to put it on youtube in this way makes me want to vomit!! I think the review did a good job pointing it out. Reading the comments I have to check again and again that tis is the A9II and not the R5 review.The review summary gives a very competent and solid statement what this camera is capable of, what it is good for and how it compares to the competition.As A9 shooter for more than two years I can say that the A9 for me is not a niche body but the main work horse doing the job in most situations. The fact still remains that for mechanical shutter shooting, it has slightly higher noise. They value the convenience and sharing capabilities more so than the absolute technical performance. It’s just very painful to wade through all the garbage to find the useful commentary. I was replying to David’s comment. Only when I feel that more DR or resolution maybe useful I grep a niche body. Please DPR do this. "Sony fans took this to a whole other level and everyone knows it" Ahem have you seen the comment section of A9ii and A7Siii articles. @ armandinoI'd love to, I'm hobbyists and i don't really care about IQ until canon caught me off guard with cheapo RP, now I'm addicted to the amount of details FF format provide :(RP sensor is crap i know and i agree, but still huge upgrade compared to smaller sensor, even from apsc. That suggestion is ridiculous. @CHALLENGER100 - "That`s why -put the new toy in a glass box and watch for next 2 years.?". But this doesn't warrant your arrogant "ever heard of", when it is simply your closed-mindedness against modern camera technology. It's personal preference, but i think by sacrificing 200mm with 200-600 is unwiseI will have to carry either 24-200 which is substandard for wildlife, or to have better iq i go heavier with 2 lenses of 24-70/24-105 along with 70-200, Meanwhile by starting at 100 i can easily cover it with 24-105 or 24-70 which is much more excellent, , this 100 mm doesn't count so much in practice, since it's on supertelephoto range, Putting 100-500 on R5 it can go up to 750 or 800 mm since in R5 in apsc crop is 20mpix, pretty much same as a9ii, no need to lose light with teleconverter, Didn't you return the 800 f11? Some, like me, are using more than one brand. Those are some pretty serious accusations. You’re right. No tracking system is able to follow from one side of the frame to the other in a fraction of a second.The 70-300mm is my favorite lens for the A9ll but it has nothing to do with the focusing problem that I don't like , I also have the gm 100-400mm. I’ve shot those same events with my A7RIII and had to use mechanical shutter, which is loud in some spaces and doesn’t focus nearly as reliably. Read the threads of equipment other than Sony and see how the Sony promoters take over with negative vitriol. Of course I don't know how many non-keepers he has :-)He also has a hints and tips section, maybe you can find something helpful to you. Why do we need these cameras? Sony A9 II,another camera for my children? You may observe chroma noise in … "....and as such is, as I said, Is perfect for those photographers who lack the skill and confidence to obtain sharp photos using less featured cameras ". And you're comparing the R5 with the A7III that costs less than half of the price. Willow or happy dad or Sarman who have both seemed to vanish as quickly as they appeared. Sorry you’re upset you post trolling comments on a Sony article and get no likes. 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